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Johnny
Post: Mar 2nd 2008 at 10:50 AM

By listening some tablatures I noticed that some instruments are missing from my default Timidity & freepats distributions (some strings, maybe more).

What do you think, what is the best soundfont or sound patch to use with Timidity?


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Laja
Post: May 27th 2008 at 10:03 PM

What I like is the a340 sf2 soundfont. It's 80Mb, freely downloadable, sounds quite ok. But tell me if you find better :)


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Johnny
Post: May 29th 2008 at 1:39 AM

I've just tried several freely available soundfonts, including Airfont340. They are all better than Freepats, I have to admit.
Airfont 340 is very good, but I have to say that distortion and overdriven guitar samples are really bad. They sound totally artificial. Clean guitars and percussions are ok. Soundfont is 78MB, one of

I also tried:

8MBGMSFX - some instruments are missing, but considering it is only 8MB big it is good choice for those with slow computers (it takes less memory than freepats).

Fluid v3.0 - 141MB, good guitars and nice sound quality, but percussions (drums and cymbals to be more precise) sound a bit thin to me.

AllInOneGM v1.1 - 84MB, sounds pretty good, no big complains, only that it doesn't sound so hi-fi.

SGM-V2.0 - 235MB, my weapon of choice from now on. Samples sound great. Usable sounds, guitars sound good and the quality is great. Only it is very big, so I wouldn't recommend it to someone with less than 1GB of memory.

I also downloaded CrisisGeneralMidi3.1, which is more than 1.5GB unpacked, but it requires registration on their forum to get password for RAR archive, and I'm still waiting. I wonder if my 2GB of RAM would be enough. :) It better be good! There are smaler earlier versions also at bismutnetwork.com

All of these soundfont collections except last one can be downloaded from www.sf2midi.com, free registration needed. :(

It is very easy to put them inside Timidity and Fluidsynth... In Timidity you should just put line

soundfont /path/to/file.SF2

in /etc/timidity/timidity.cfg... and comment freepats or whatever you're using.

Should I write Wiki about this?


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Ethan
Post: Aug 15th 2008 at 12:33 AM

My default is UGMv_1 from sf2midi.com


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gnumm
Post: Aug 18th 2008 at 7:17 AM

I also use SGM-V2.0 on Linux and it sounds great.
Can I also use this on Windows?


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Johnny
Post: Aug 18th 2008 at 12:46 PM

You can with any Windows synthesizer that supports soundfonts, e.g. Fluidsynth or Gervill.


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yervah
Post: Aug 21st 2008 at 5:46 PM

Hey, I got a question that no one seems to mention or maybe no one is having this issue.
I use Qsynth which uses fluidsynth. When I load a guitar soundfont and connect tuxguitar to it, I can't use the effects like bends, hammer-ons etc. It works with the built-in synth. Am I missing something or jsut messing it up?


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Julian
Post: Aug 21st 2008 at 6:15 PM

Unfortunatly, for any reason fluidsynth server (i tested under alsa driver) don't receive "pitch bend sensitive" events. so this cause you can't listen pitch bends (or listen them, but to slow)
I don't have idea if it happen with other driver.

What i know, if fluidsynth API have that function.
So if you install TuxGuitar-fluidsynth plugin (you'll need build it from sources) what uses fluidsynth API instead of Alsa, you'll be able to listen that pitchbends.


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yervah
Post: Aug 21st 2008 at 8:11 PM

thanx Julian...will try it.


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Anonymous bin Ich
Post: Dec 3rd 2008 at 10:02 PM

Hi! This is almost a dead thread, but I am very curious... where do you find SGM-V2.0? Google search gives me this thread!


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Johnny
Post: Dec 14th 2008 at 3:19 AM

SGM-2.01 is out
http://www.geocities.jp/shansoundfont/


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Torge
Post: Mar 9th 2009 at 4:05 PM

Hi,
I've also tried Airfont 340, FluidR3 and SGM-2.01 now and agree with Johnny regarding the general quality.

SGM is by far the best, but the bass is way too quiet for me as a bassist. I can hardly hear it among the other instruments in some songs.

I don't want to switch back to the worse fonts, but unfortunately I can't really work with SGM like that either.

Is there a way to increase the volume of the bass?


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Julian
Post: Mar 9th 2009 at 7:40 PM

From tuxguitar you can mix the volumes ( see on menu View -> Show Mixer )
But it may be hard to change mix values for all files you have.

If you run timidity you probably needs a better configuration file.

You can see here for some available configuration files:
http://timidity.s11.xrea.com/files/readme_cfgp.htm

i see that there is a SGM file, but it's for "1.40" version.
But you can see how to load a soundfont specifing configuration for each available instrument.


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Torge
Post: Mar 10th 2009 at 2:17 PM

Thanks for answering. :)
Yes, changing the mix for all files would be hard..
I use timidity, but I only have a configuration file for Freepats, which I don't use anymore, in /etc/timidity.
Is there a tutorial about how to change these config files?


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isabella
Post: Mar 12th 2009 at 2:54 PM

I downloaded the demo of sgm-v2.1 ,it's so great !!!


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Golbez
Post: Mar 24th 2009 at 7:12 AM

I'm downloading this SGM soundfont now. Thanks for the suggestion and link.

I've tested several other interesting soundfonts, and I've found a good selection of higher end soundfonts at these two places:
http://www.personalcopy.com/home.htm (click on "soundfonts" in the left column, and then "big soundfonts" above).

http://www.composition-contest.com/db_sf2.php This place has an extraordinary selection of "Merlin" soundfonts. They're pretty high quality, and I strongly recommend them. But again, I have yet to sample this SGM. Maybe it's better. I hope it is, but I'd be surprised if it was.


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schivmeister
Post: Jun 1st 2009 at 7:56 PM

Looks like most of the mappings from the older SGM work for the 2.x version.

Get http://timidity.s11.xrea.com/files/cfgs/sgm150v140.cfg and sed the sf2 reference with the path to yours, eg.:

~# sed -i 's|SGM150 v1.40.sf2|/usr/local/share/soundfonts/SGM-V2.01.sf2|g' /etc/timidity++/timidity.cfg

If you noticed I actually replaced my main timidity cfg with it. Now the kicks are awesome and that's all I care about!


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Jonathan
Post: Sep 15th 2009 at 12:11 PM

Hi guys, agree with Johnny above about the SGM, basses are good but WAAAYY too low. I change banks the other day, and the bass is booming with the other bank, but very weak when I switch back to SGM.


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Julian
Post: Sep 25th 2009 at 8:58 PM

For me the best is MagicSFver2,
it have less quality sounds than SGM or CrisisGeneralMidi..
but when i play all tracks together i think MagicSFVer produces a more clear sound.


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flipe
Post: Oct 16th 2009 at 10:40 PM

can someone make a torrent or a ed2k link for a340, this sf is no more available in sf2mid.com

thanks!


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Puzzlenoise
Post: Nov 10th 2009 at 12:12 PM

How can I implement Soundfonts in Ubuntu?


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Julian
Post: Nov 10th 2009 at 10:44 PM

Puzzlenoise, this topic talks about timidity soundfont..
but there are a lot of ways to load a soundfont in gnu/linux.

please, start telling us what MIDI Port do you have selected in tuxguitar, and i'll be able to help you configuring one.


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Puzzlenoise
Post: Nov 13th 2009 at 8:10 PM

I'm using the Realtime Sound Sequencer, the port is "Java Sound Synthesizer"


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Julian
Post: Nov 14th 2009 at 3:21 PM

Well "Java Sound Synthesizer" don't support soundfonts :).
it support beatnik soundbanks ( personally i think they are horrible ).

To load soundfonts, you have to choice beetween gervill (a replacement of java sound synthesizer if you run tuxguitar with OpenJDK ), timidity or fluidsynth.

these 3 options have .sf2 support.


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Anonymous
Post: Nov 11th 2010 at 8:50 PM

"It is very easy to put them inside Timidity and Fluidsynth... In Timidity you should just put line

soundfont /path/to/file.SF2

in /etc/timidity/timidity.cfg... and comment freepats or whatever you're using.

Should I write Wiki about this?"

I installed it this way, but it just doesn't work at all :( What is wrong?


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